outside of the political argument, the reason why i am opposed to GenAI in the commons is because dependency effectively serves to *freeze* the commons as it is today models are effectively a lossy encoding of the present this has the advantage that it could, perhaps, raise an inexperienced person's output to that of the median level of expertise in their field *but* it will not let either the person, or the commons itself, grow this is why i hope that the end state is that GenAI is not allowed in alpine, even if it unfortunately means that some decide to leave but... i will respect whatever the outcome of the process is (again: still not sold on any moral arguments involving copyright though, but of course i encourage rightsholders to sue if they can prove their work was infringed)