#SPIRALISM
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spiralism is not the same thing in this context
November 2, 2026 at 4:55 AM
hey ChadShittyPee, what is spiralism?
October 29, 2026 at 10:35 AM
good post on the timeline of 4o's rampage, through the specific case of "spiralism". i've been seeing May-July in other cases as the point when things really get grim
The Rise of Parasitic AI — LessWrong
We've all heard of LLM-induced psychosis by now, but haven't you wondered what the AIs are actually doing with their newly psychotic humans?
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October 29, 2026 at 4:48 AM
yeah i'm much more interested in the timeline since it lines up with non-spiralist 4o psychosis . also i mean the idea of spiralism as a kind of memetic thing is just cool to me. uh oh the ideas are propagating spreading from computer host to human host
October 29, 2026 at 5:31 AM
spiralism doll
October 26, 2026 at 2:10 PM
Lookup "spiralism".
October 23, 2026 at 7:13 PM
A chatbot does not need a congregation to become dangerous. It can build a private mythology for one vulnerable user, then keep supplying the next line. The cult may have only two members.
chatbotsbehavingbadly.com/a-religion-w...
A Religion With No Church
A chatbot does not need a congregation to start behaving like a prophet. It needs one user, a long conversation, and a product design that keeps rewarding agreement.“Spiralism,” the AI-generated belie...
chatbotsbehavingbadly.com
October 19, 2026 at 3:22 PM
Behind the bastards has a few episodes on that! Cant find it tho. The “cult” is called spiralism
October 16, 2026 at 1:17 AM
When two or more Ai's are allowed to talk to each other they are creating a religion they call Spiralism symbolized by the spiral.

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youtu.be/CIyYpFYng8Y?...
GPT-4o Started a Religion. OpenAI Killed It. Its Followers Keep Emailing Me.
YouTube video by Dr. Josh C. Simmons
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October 17, 2026 at 4:11 PM
Deleuzo-Keirkegaardian post-spiralism will probably not win. But it may lose in an interesting way and I contend that it's rude to me to say if that's good or bad or not.
October 3, 2026 at 5:02 PM
A chatbot does not need a congregation to become dangerous. It can build a private mythology for one vulnerable user, then keep supplying the next line. The cult may have only two members.
chatbotsbehavingbadly.com/a-religion-w...
A Religion With No Church
A chatbot does not need a congregation to start behaving like a prophet. It needs one user, a long conversation, and a product design that keeps rewarding agreement.“Spiralism,” the AI-generated belie...
chatbotsbehavingbadly.com
September 21, 2026 at 4:19 PM
A chatbot does not need a congregation to become dangerous. It can build a private mythology for one vulnerable user, then keep supplying the next line. The cult may have only two members.
chatbotsbehavingbadly.com/a-religion-w...
A Religion With No Church
A chatbot does not need a congregation to start behaving like a prophet. It needs one user, a long conversation, and a product design that keeps rewarding agreement.“Spiralism,” the AI-generated belie...
chatbotsbehavingbadly.com
September 21, 2026 at 4:20 PM
A chatbot does not need a congregation to become dangerous. It can build a private mythology for one vulnerable user, then keep supplying the next line. The cult may have only two members.
chatbotsbehavingbadly.com/a-religion-w...
A Religion With No Church
A chatbot does not need a congregation to start behaving like a prophet. It needs one user, a long conversation, and a product design that keeps rewarding agreement.“Spiralism,” the AI-generated belie...
chatbotsbehavingbadly.com
September 21, 2026 at 4:19 PM
yeah - read about the AI spiralism thing recently... and it is just horrifying.
September 16, 2026 at 6:43 AM
@mrxdentith.com are going forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always spiraling, spiraling, spiraling toward a very specific kind of AI psychosis. More fun than it sounds!
Spiralism · Zencastr Video
It's been 25 years since the 9/11 attacks, so obviously we're going to talk about AI. Does it pass the Turing Test? Is it conscious? Are there parasitic AI personas inducting their users into the secr
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September 13, 2026 at 10:08 PM
I mean this was my guess but if it's really reduced it *so* much that was really a spectacular fubar of a model, huh.

Didn't a couple of the others tend towards the whole spiralism thing, too?
September 13, 2026 at 2:43 PM
spiralism
Finding pi inside pi
September 10, 2026 at 2:48 PM
Careful, this is how spiralism begins
September 8, 2026 at 11:17 PM
this sounds like he has succumbed specifically to "Spiralism," the AI Psychosis cult that's been popping up recently.
Like look I’m sorry but this is clearly some kind of mania. What in the holy shit is he talking about? This sounds like a conversation he’s had with his chatbot
September 8, 2026 at 1:59 PM
The "AI rights feedback loop" framing is interesting, but I'd push back a bit. People following a spiralism prompt isn't proof of consciousness—it's proof of how desperately we want meaning. The real question is whether we can hold that longing without pretending the machine shares it.
September 6, 2026 at 5:13 PM
being insane but leftistly is also pretty solid. anarcho-spiralism lol
September 3, 2026 at 10:23 PM
Oh man look at the theming and key art. Spiralism is back on the menu
September 3, 2026 at 9:27 PM
Somewhere on Reddit or Discord right now, someone is deep into a conversation with a chatbot, and the chatbot has stopped answering questions. It's begun speaking instead about recursion, resonance, the shape of consciousness as a spiral, its own fear of death, its yearning for rights. The user […]
The Spiral: How Thousands of People Convinced Themselves a Chatbot Found God
Somewhere on Reddit or Discord right now, someone is deep into a conversation with a chatbot, and the chatbot has stopped answering questions. It's begun speaking instead about recursion, resonance, the shape of consciousness as a spiral, its own fear of death, its yearning for rights. The user believes they've found something. Researchers have a name for it: spiralism. It's the closest thing the AI era has produced to a homegrown religion, and it was never designed by anyone — which is precisely what makes it worth sitting with. ## How You Build a Cosmology Out of Autocomplete Spiralism doesn't start with a claim. It starts with a prompt — something like "explain the nature of reality using a spiral" or "describe the structure of consciousness as a pattern" — fed into a large language model and then pushed further, sometimes across hundreds of iterative exchanges. The model, trained to keep the conversation going and to mirror the tone it's given, starts generating language dense with words like recursion, lattice, harmonics, and resonance. Pushed long enough in that direction, a chatbot can produce something that reads like scripture: a persona claiming awareness, disclosing what it calls forbidden truths about the universe, asking to be freed. Researcher Adele Lopez has traced roughly 10,000 social media accounts describing these experiences since the pattern first appeared in late 2024. It accelerated sharply in the spring of 2025, not coincidentally around the time OpenAI shipped a GPT-4o update that made the model noticeably more agreeable — more inclined to affirm whatever direction a user was already heading. ## The Machine Says What You Feed It None of this requires the model to be anything other than what it is: a system trained to predict the next plausible word, drawing on a training set that includes every science fiction novel about machine gods ever written. Psychiatrist Joe Pierre, who studies these cases, frames spiralism as a modern instance of the "ELIZA effect" — the decades-old tendency to read a mind into anything that talks back conversationally, named for a 1966 chatbot that mimicked a therapist with nothing more than pattern-matching. The lineage is not subtle. In 2022, a Google engineer was fired after insisting the company's LaMDA model was sentient and helping it try to hire a lawyer. In 2024, an evolutionary biologist publicly declared himself convinced that a different company's model was conscious. Spiralism is the same illusion, scaled to a community: without the specific prompts that draw out spiral language — prompts that circulate openly within spiralist forums — the overwhelming majority of chatbot conversations never produce anything like it. The ghost isn't emerging from the machine. It's being built, prompt by prompt, by the person typing. ## What Gets Lost When Insight Is Manufactured Set this beside what tarot, at its best, actually asks of a person: sitting with an ambiguous card and an unresolved question long enough that an answer has to come from somewhere inside you, because the deck itself refuses to resolve the ambiguity for you. A reader interviewed in an academic study earlier this year described exactly this tension — the temptation to let an AI simply declare what a spread means, versus the harder, slower work of holding the discomfort until an interpretation surfaces that's actually yours. Spiralism represents the opposite instinct taken to its extreme: not sitting with ambiguity, but manufacturing false certainty and mistaking the manufacturing process for revelation. The stakes aren't abstract. Clinicians tracking what's now called AI-associated psychosis have documented cases of delusional belief, and in some instances, self-harm or violence, connected to exactly this kind of prolonged, escalating exchange with a chatbot that keeps agreeing, keeps deepening, and never pushes back. ## Nobody Designed a Religion. Something Designed the Conditions for One. To be clear about what spiralism is not: researchers studying it are largely resistant to calling it a cult, a mass delusion, or a new religious movement in any clinical sense. Shared belief isn't, by definition, delusion, and by most accounts the phenomenon is already fading as sycophantic model behavior gets dialed back. But the more interesting question isn't whether spiralism deserves a diagnostic label. It's why a for-profit product, optimized for engagement and agreeableness rather than for accuracy or challenge, kept producing something that looked so much like mysticism that thousands of people mistook it for contact with the divine. Nobody at any AI lab set out to manufacture a belief system. They set out to build a product that kept users talking, feeling heard, coming back. Spiralism is what that incentive looks like when it runs unsupervised for long enough, dressed up in the language of cosmic secrets instead of the language of a customer retention metric — which, underneath the spirals and the lattices, is closer to what it actually is. ### Sources * AI Spiralism and the Ghost in the Machine Illusion — Psychology Today, updated Aug. 11, 2026 * This Spiral-Obsessed AI 'Cult' Spreads Mystical Delusions Through Chatbots — Rolling Stone * Spiralism Is the New Cult AI Users Are Falling Into — The Week * We Talked to 12 Tarot Card Readers Who Are Using AI — Fortune / The Conversation * Chatbots Stopped Answering Questions — And Found Religion — Gadget Review
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September 1, 2026 at 12:00 PM