so this was 100% supposed to be in TWW like harandar, huh
November 7, 2026 at 3:51 AM
so this was 100% supposed to be in TWW like harandar, huh
So, I think it was supposed to go:
Ansurek -> Undermine breather -> black blood climax with kith'ix in Harandar -> Midnight -> Dimensius -> Voidspire -> Ulatek
Ansurek -> Undermine breather -> black blood climax with kith'ix in Harandar -> Midnight -> Dimensius -> Voidspire -> Ulatek
November 7, 2026 at 3:13 PM
So, I think it was supposed to go:
Ansurek -> Undermine breather -> black blood climax with kith'ix in Harandar -> Midnight -> Dimensius -> Voidspire -> Ulatek
Ansurek -> Undermine breather -> black blood climax with kith'ix in Harandar -> Midnight -> Dimensius -> Voidspire -> Ulatek
it’s probably my favourite zone of all of midnight!! i did enjoy harandar as well tbf but voidstorm is very good
November 3, 2026 at 1:17 PM
it’s probably my favourite zone of all of midnight!! i did enjoy harandar as well tbf but voidstorm is very good
earthen? suck. Harandar? suck. Dracthyr? why the hell didn't we get the beefy boys we wanted since vanilla?! and there will be no new races in TLT because there is just "no time" because it's "all gas no brakes" to the end of the story
November 4, 2026 at 10:47 PM
earthen? suck. Harandar? suck. Dracthyr? why the hell didn't we get the beefy boys we wanted since vanilla?! and there will be no new races in TLT because there is just "no time" because it's "all gas no brakes" to the end of the story
Yep! And like... I for one, while interested in retail, haven't been properly playing for a long time now - I haven't even started the... 12.0.5 quests I think (I have not seen Zul'jan in Harandar yet in game)? And there's always so much to do in retail each week I have little time for what I want--
November 5, 2026 at 6:53 PM
Yep! And like... I for one, while interested in retail, haven't been properly playing for a long time now - I haven't even started the... 12.0.5 quests I think (I have not seen Zul'jan in Harandar yet in game)? And there's always so much to do in retail each week I have little time for what I want--
It's because Haranir were meant to be a big focus in The War Within and NOT Midnight. Harandar was a TWW zone moved to Midnight due to timecrunching. I 100% believe Haranir were meant to be a second allied race in TWW, and then Midnight was going to have Amani.
November 5, 2026 at 12:00 AM
It's because Haranir were meant to be a big focus in The War Within and NOT Midnight. Harandar was a TWW zone moved to Midnight due to timecrunching. I 100% believe Haranir were meant to be a second allied race in TWW, and then Midnight was going to have Amani.
i honestly do really like the lightbloom and i wish we got more of it in the main story, but i will always feel it was a wasted opportunity to not tie it to thas'alah's roots 😭 that was your perrrfecttt piece of niche lore to explain the connection between eversong & harandar!! it was right there!!
October 28, 2026 at 3:18 PM
i honestly do really like the lightbloom and i wish we got more of it in the main story, but i will always feel it was a wasted opportunity to not tie it to thas'alah's roots 😭 that was your perrrfecttt piece of niche lore to explain the connection between eversong & harandar!! it was right there!!
i thought so too!! i was so convinced we would finally get confirmation that it was a world tree, and that its withered/dormant roots would be our way to harandar... i can't believe they did a whole nature focused B plot for quel'thalas and forgot about my beloved thas'alah 😭 broooo
October 28, 2026 at 5:14 PM
i thought so too!! i was so convinced we would finally get confirmation that it was a world tree, and that its withered/dormant roots would be our way to harandar... i can't believe they did a whole nature focused B plot for quel'thalas and forgot about my beloved thas'alah 😭 broooo
I thought for sure they’d retcon Thas’alah into a full world tree and use it as our way into Harandar but I don’t think it is mentioned at all in the entire expansion
Granted as you say it’s obscure lore, only in the hunter artifact book, but still feels like a missed opportunity.
Granted as you say it’s obscure lore, only in the hunter artifact book, but still feels like a missed opportunity.
October 28, 2026 at 4:58 PM
I thought for sure they’d retcon Thas’alah into a full world tree and use it as our way into Harandar but I don’t think it is mentioned at all in the entire expansion
Granted as you say it’s obscure lore, only in the hunter artifact book, but still feels like a missed opportunity.
Granted as you say it’s obscure lore, only in the hunter artifact book, but still feels like a missed opportunity.
Fun fact: Orweyna says in some gossip text at the end of the Harandar MSQ that while the Lightbloom will no longer spread to additional areas of Eversong, the ones already affected can never be healed and the Lightbloom there is permanent. So it really is just the less interesting Dead Scar 2.0.
Trade the Dead Scar & major Scourge remnants for the Lightbloom. By great coincidence, you will never see the world recover from this for a long time assuming if it's even possible. It's Gorgrond reheated nachos, but with more body horror by aggressive plants.
October 26, 2026 at 12:20 PM
Fun fact: Orweyna says in some gossip text at the end of the Harandar MSQ that while the Lightbloom will no longer spread to additional areas of Eversong, the ones already affected can never be healed and the Lightbloom there is permanent. So it really is just the less interesting Dead Scar 2.0.
Also I would've brought back .3 patches. Would that make the expacs longer? Yes.
Is that a bad thing? Not really.
That way you could've still fit something like Undermine in, alongside Harandar and the Worldcore for War Within, and have a LOT to work with for TLT too (hopefully).
Is that a bad thing? Not really.
That way you could've still fit something like Undermine in, alongside Harandar and the Worldcore for War Within, and have a LOT to work with for TLT too (hopefully).
October 26, 2026 at 3:21 PM
Also I would've brought back .3 patches. Would that make the expacs longer? Yes.
Is that a bad thing? Not really.
That way you could've still fit something like Undermine in, alongside Harandar and the Worldcore for War Within, and have a LOT to work with for TLT too (hopefully).
Is that a bad thing? Not really.
That way you could've still fit something like Undermine in, alongside Harandar and the Worldcore for War Within, and have a LOT to work with for TLT too (hopefully).
God, the ending of Harandar made me SO mad specifically for this.
The set-up for the ending felt like the only time in Midnight where the blood elves actually reflected their themes… and then it gets fully undermined by the haranir showing up and no sacrifices needing to be made.
The set-up for the ending felt like the only time in Midnight where the blood elves actually reflected their themes… and then it gets fully undermined by the haranir showing up and no sacrifices needing to be made.
October 26, 2026 at 2:51 PM
God, the ending of Harandar made me SO mad specifically for this.
The set-up for the ending felt like the only time in Midnight where the blood elves actually reflected their themes… and then it gets fully undermined by the haranir showing up and no sacrifices needing to be made.
The set-up for the ending felt like the only time in Midnight where the blood elves actually reflected their themes… and then it gets fully undermined by the haranir showing up and no sacrifices needing to be made.
Trade the Dead Scar & major Scourge remnants for the Lightbloom. By great coincidence, you will never see the world recover from this for a long time assuming if it's even possible. It's Gorgrond reheated nachos, but with more body horror by aggressive plants.
October 26, 2026 at 2:29 AM
Trade the Dead Scar & major Scourge remnants for the Lightbloom. By great coincidence, you will never see the world recover from this for a long time assuming if it's even possible. It's Gorgrond reheated nachos, but with more body horror by aggressive plants.
It's worth noting that the Lightbloom wasn't a new phenomena by the start of Midnight, what was new was it spreading rapidly and drawing up aggressive Lightfused creatures from Harandar. It wasn't even seen as a problem that needed solving prior it being supercharged by the empowered Sunwell.
October 26, 2026 at 3:27 PM
It's worth noting that the Lightbloom wasn't a new phenomena by the start of Midnight, what was new was it spreading rapidly and drawing up aggressive Lightfused creatures from Harandar. It wasn't even seen as a problem that needed solving prior it being supercharged by the empowered Sunwell.
It was bits like this that make me extremely unwilling to go back and finish all the sidequest stuff in harandar. I can really only take so much sanctimonious Correctness Posturing from the (writers) haranir, especially with the whole enlightened noble savage thing the haranir have going on.
October 24, 2026 at 5:36 PM
It was bits like this that make me extremely unwilling to go back and finish all the sidequest stuff in harandar. I can really only take so much sanctimonious Correctness Posturing from the (writers) haranir, especially with the whole enlightened noble savage thing the haranir have going on.
Sure that Blizzard decides these things via dice rolls.
- Using the portal to Harandar: Dismount
- Using the portal to Voidstorm: Don't dismount
(Edit: Both sides of the Harandar portal are considered outdoors and you can use the mount there.)
#WorldOfWarcraft #Warcraft #DreadfulPlays
- Using the portal to Harandar: Dismount
- Using the portal to Voidstorm: Don't dismount
(Edit: Both sides of the Harandar portal are considered outdoors and you can use the mount there.)
#WorldOfWarcraft #Warcraft #DreadfulPlays
October 24, 2026 at 7:12 AM
Sure that Blizzard decides these things via dice rolls.
- Using the portal to Harandar: Dismount
- Using the portal to Voidstorm: Don't dismount
(Edit: Both sides of the Harandar portal are considered outdoors and you can use the mount there.)
#WorldOfWarcraft #Warcraft #DreadfulPlays
- Using the portal to Harandar: Dismount
- Using the portal to Voidstorm: Don't dismount
(Edit: Both sides of the Harandar portal are considered outdoors and you can use the mount there.)
#WorldOfWarcraft #Warcraft #DreadfulPlays
... I just realized I completely forgot about voidstorm and harandar, cause they weren't connected, like TWW was. It was like my memory pidgeon holed those zones, for whatever reason [probably also story ones].
October 24, 2026 at 12:41 AM
... I just realized I completely forgot about voidstorm and harandar, cause they weren't connected, like TWW was. It was like my memory pidgeon holed those zones, for whatever reason [probably also story ones].
Beginning to think Voidstorm and Harandar have too many quests, like, just an excess of them and not in a good way
October 23, 2026 at 7:15 PM
Beginning to think Voidstorm and Harandar have too many quests, like, just an excess of them and not in a good way
I was playing wow earlier and lvling my haranir, finally got them to midnight. Excited to take him back to Harandar now that they're all seasoned and 'grown up', only for literally every npc to be like "WHAT ARE YOU? WHO ARE YOU?"
would it have been so hard to customize the text?? put me right off.
would it have been so hard to customize the text?? put me right off.
October 22, 2026 at 10:26 PM
I was playing wow earlier and lvling my haranir, finally got them to midnight. Excited to take him back to Harandar now that they're all seasoned and 'grown up', only for literally every npc to be like "WHAT ARE YOU? WHO ARE YOU?"
would it have been so hard to customize the text?? put me right off.
would it have been so hard to customize the text?? put me right off.
Doing my weeklies and I always turn off the audio whenever I get into Harandar, the hokey pseudo-african music is extremely cringe and bad
October 21, 2026 at 4:24 AM
Doing my weeklies and I always turn off the audio whenever I get into Harandar, the hokey pseudo-african music is extremely cringe and bad
I 100% think that Ecplise (next major patch) was the original idea for the last patch of TWW (Rootlands/ Harandar was going to be 11.1, not Undermine). Couple that with Thrall's lorewalking, I do feel he's going to have a role in it (12.2 that is, and whatever the original vision was for Eclipse).
October 20, 2026 at 12:43 PM
I 100% think that Ecplise (next major patch) was the original idea for the last patch of TWW (Rootlands/ Harandar was going to be 11.1, not Undermine). Couple that with Thrall's lorewalking, I do feel he's going to have a role in it (12.2 that is, and whatever the original vision was for Eclipse).
there's a daily quest in harandar where you set fire to lightbloom plants. it looks super goofy if you're a druid in one of your forms.
October 19, 2026 at 8:56 PM
there's a daily quest in harandar where you set fire to lightbloom plants. it looks super goofy if you're a druid in one of your forms.
That we're going back to Khaz Algar for the 12.1.7 makes me so confused on why they had to separate Harandar from it. Could have avoided the confusing stuff about Harandar being inside Azeroth but also a separate dimension or how the entryway to Harandar in Khaz Algar is just completely ignored.
October 15, 2026 at 5:15 PM
That we're going back to Khaz Algar for the 12.1.7 makes me so confused on why they had to separate Harandar from it. Could have avoided the confusing stuff about Harandar being inside Azeroth but also a separate dimension or how the entryway to Harandar in Khaz Algar is just completely ignored.
Honest thoughts on why we feel like this? It dealt with cosmic stuff but kept it grounded on Azeroth. I don’t really give too many shits about K’aresh, Voidstorm, or Harandar.
Genuinely love being back here, it's crazy how quickly I feel nostalgia for Khaz Algar when it's barely been half a year lol
October 15, 2026 at 11:11 PM
Honest thoughts on why we feel like this? It dealt with cosmic stuff but kept it grounded on Azeroth. I don’t really give too many shits about K’aresh, Voidstorm, or Harandar.
Instead of Harandar they should have revamped Azuremyst/Bloodmyst isle.
October 15, 2026 at 4:34 PM
Instead of Harandar they should have revamped Azuremyst/Bloodmyst isle.