I totally agree that an amendment + enabling legislation is better than the NPVC, but in light of practical political reality, I am wondering what the argument is that the status quo is better than the NPVC.
November 12, 2026 at 5:07 PM
I totally agree that an amendment + enabling legislation is better than the NPVC, but in light of practical political reality, I am wondering what the argument is that the status quo is better than the NPVC.
Oddly, PA does not have universal early voting either, if I'm not mistaken.
The NPVC is a red herring. We need the Electoral College abolished via amendment. All the NPVC does is begin an elector war between States where just about anything could happen.
The NPVC is a red herring. We need the Electoral College abolished via amendment. All the NPVC does is begin an elector war between States where just about anything could happen.
November 13, 2026 at 6:26 PM
Oddly, PA does not have universal early voting either, if I'm not mistaken.
The NPVC is a red herring. We need the Electoral College abolished via amendment. All the NPVC does is begin an elector war between States where just about anything could happen.
The NPVC is a red herring. We need the Electoral College abolished via amendment. All the NPVC does is begin an elector war between States where just about anything could happen.
@proptermalone.bsky.social thanks for the omnibus reconciliation podcast of 2026. Re: the NPVC, you mentioned equal protection issues with it, for example felon voting rights. Isn't this already an equal protection issue that could be the subject of litigation? If not how does the NPVC make it one?
November 13, 2026 at 5:30 PM
@proptermalone.bsky.social thanks for the omnibus reconciliation podcast of 2026. Re: the NPVC, you mentioned equal protection issues with it, for example felon voting rights. Isn't this already an equal protection issue that could be the subject of litigation? If not how does the NPVC make it one?
Sorry, disagree. You're arguing SCOTUS would interfere with how states allocate NPVC, but we need to have state independence in elections.
There's a HUGE political advantage. The public hates the EC and to see Dems take BOLD action would help going into 28.
There's a HUGE political advantage. The public hates the EC and to see Dems take BOLD action would help going into 28.
November 14, 2026 at 4:11 PM
Sorry, disagree. You're arguing SCOTUS would interfere with how states allocate NPVC, but we need to have state independence in elections.
There's a HUGE political advantage. The public hates the EC and to see Dems take BOLD action would help going into 28.
There's a HUGE political advantage. The public hates the EC and to see Dems take BOLD action would help going into 28.
NPVC! NPVC! NPVC!
Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro expressed interest Saturday in joining the National Popular Vote Compact for the Electoral College.
After gaining full power in 2026, Dems just need to pass the compact in PA, MI, and two of AZ, NV, and WI to give it the majority of electoral votes needed to activate
After gaining full power in 2026, Dems just need to pass the compact in PA, MI, and two of AZ, NV, and WI to give it the majority of electoral votes needed to activate
November 8, 2026 at 4:30 AM
NPVC! NPVC! NPVC!
which seems like a prescription for lawsuit hell and chaos
I think so much of the problem here is that any workaround like the NPVC is just that: a workaround. It doesn’t address the fundamental structural issues. and as ever, Democrats would abide by it, and Republicans would flout it
I think so much of the problem here is that any workaround like the NPVC is just that: a workaround. It doesn’t address the fundamental structural issues. and as ever, Democrats would abide by it, and Republicans would flout it
November 14, 2026 at 7:59 PM
which seems like a prescription for lawsuit hell and chaos
I think so much of the problem here is that any workaround like the NPVC is just that: a workaround. It doesn’t address the fundamental structural issues. and as ever, Democrats would abide by it, and Republicans would flout it
I think so much of the problem here is that any workaround like the NPVC is just that: a workaround. It doesn’t address the fundamental structural issues. and as ever, Democrats would abide by it, and Republicans would flout it
The NPVC is simply agreeing that electors will follow the popular vote.
November 14, 2026 at 6:30 PM
The NPVC is simply agreeing that electors will follow the popular vote.
Abolishing the Electoral College is a GREAT idea. I need someone to explain to me how the NPVC does anything LIKE that in any binding way. It seems to me like unilateral disarmament at best.
Democratic Gov.-elect Aaron Ford says he wants Nevada to join the National Popular Vote Compact after Democrats just gained full power.
Ford says the Electoral College should be abolished because of its “racist underpinnings” and how it enables the popular vote loser to become president
Ford says the Electoral College should be abolished because of its “racist underpinnings” and how it enables the popular vote loser to become president
November 12, 2026 at 10:39 PM
Abolishing the Electoral College is a GREAT idea. I need someone to explain to me how the NPVC does anything LIKE that in any binding way. It seems to me like unilateral disarmament at best.
So I’ve soured on the NPVC recently. If it ends up being a new big Red vs Blue conflict, it’s probably too dangerous. If there were a general consensus behind it, then perhaps it could work long enough to become the new normal.
November 14, 2026 at 11:10 AM
So I’ve soured on the NPVC recently. If it ends up being a new big Red vs Blue conflict, it’s probably too dangerous. If there were a general consensus behind it, then perhaps it could work long enough to become the new normal.
You expect me to argue with an actual Constitutional scholar? In public?
OK.
The problem with the NPVC is that it relies on individual states to manage how or if they keep to it, and then only the ones that sign up. I'm advocating an amendment PLUS enabling legislation to codify the process.
OK.
The problem with the NPVC is that it relies on individual states to manage how or if they keep to it, and then only the ones that sign up. I'm advocating an amendment PLUS enabling legislation to codify the process.
November 12, 2026 at 4:52 PM
You expect me to argue with an actual Constitutional scholar? In public?
OK.
The problem with the NPVC is that it relies on individual states to manage how or if they keep to it, and then only the ones that sign up. I'm advocating an amendment PLUS enabling legislation to codify the process.
OK.
The problem with the NPVC is that it relies on individual states to manage how or if they keep to it, and then only the ones that sign up. I'm advocating an amendment PLUS enabling legislation to codify the process.
NPVC wouldn’t be too hard. There’s already a non-profit behind it, they can handle the legal battles etc.
November 9, 2026 at 7:10 PM
NPVC wouldn’t be too hard. There’s already a non-profit behind it, they can handle the legal battles etc.
lol wait is NPVC actually in reach???????
Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro expressed interest Saturday in joining the National Popular Vote Compact for the Electoral College.
After gaining full power in 2026, Dems just need to pass the compact in PA, MI, and two of AZ, NV, and WI to give it the majority of electoral votes needed to activate
After gaining full power in 2026, Dems just need to pass the compact in PA, MI, and two of AZ, NV, and WI to give it the majority of electoral votes needed to activate
November 8, 2026 at 12:02 PM
lol wait is NPVC actually in reach???????
We’re already going to see a different race with Dems in control of so many states, with more likely next year.
I’m hoping we will see ranked choice voting and the NPVC in many states, but even as it stands, we are in a much different position than we were a week ago.
I’m hoping we will see ranked choice voting and the NPVC in many states, but even as it stands, we are in a much different position than we were a week ago.
November 12, 2026 at 11:43 PM
We’re already going to see a different race with Dems in control of so many states, with more likely next year.
I’m hoping we will see ranked choice voting and the NPVC in many states, but even as it stands, we are in a much different position than we were a week ago.
I’m hoping we will see ranked choice voting and the NPVC in many states, but even as it stands, we are in a much different position than we were a week ago.
this Pennsylvanian wants the PA legislature to pass the NPVC and have Shapiro sign it!
November 8, 2026 at 4:56 AM
this Pennsylvanian wants the PA legislature to pass the NPVC and have Shapiro sign it!
Because it complies with Article 2, Section 1, Clause 2
to the letter.
The only operative factor in question is compliance, and the NPVC complies. It doesn't exclude the EC, it just takes the Constitution at it's word and legislates a method of choosing their EC electors.
Prove me wrong.
to the letter.
The only operative factor in question is compliance, and the NPVC complies. It doesn't exclude the EC, it just takes the Constitution at it's word and legislates a method of choosing their EC electors.
Prove me wrong.
November 10, 2026 at 7:57 AM
Because it complies with Article 2, Section 1, Clause 2
to the letter.
The only operative factor in question is compliance, and the NPVC complies. It doesn't exclude the EC, it just takes the Constitution at it's word and legislates a method of choosing their EC electors.
Prove me wrong.
to the letter.
The only operative factor in question is compliance, and the NPVC complies. It doesn't exclude the EC, it just takes the Constitution at it's word and legislates a method of choosing their EC electors.
Prove me wrong.
I also think you’re being disingenuous by pretending a NPVC means legislatures “choosing” electors in a way a winner-take-all system doesn’t.
In both cases the legislature doesn’t have anything to choose once the system is in place
In both cases the legislature doesn’t have anything to choose once the system is in place
November 14, 2026 at 7:45 PM
I also think you’re being disingenuous by pretending a NPVC means legislatures “choosing” electors in a way a winner-take-all system doesn’t.
In both cases the legislature doesn’t have anything to choose once the system is in place
In both cases the legislature doesn’t have anything to choose once the system is in place
They aren’t “chosen by legislatures” in a winner-take-all, district level apportionment, or NPVC system either. What SCOTUS effectively said in that passage was that states still had the latitude to decide how they would select electors even with the 14th in place
November 14, 2026 at 7:15 PM
They aren’t “chosen by legislatures” in a winner-take-all, district level apportionment, or NPVC system either. What SCOTUS effectively said in that passage was that states still had the latitude to decide how they would select electors even with the 14th in place
I really hope we do pass the NPVC
November 7, 2026 at 4:56 AM
I really hope we do pass the NPVC
It’d be nice to get enough states on board to actually give this a try. From what I’ve heard elsewhere since the election, the NPVC is probably not ironclad enough to stand up to the myriad legal challenges that would be brought in the wake of its attempt. But that doesn’t mean it’s not worth doing.
November 11, 2026 at 7:07 PM
It’d be nice to get enough states on board to actually give this a try. From what I’ve heard elsewhere since the election, the NPVC is probably not ironclad enough to stand up to the myriad legal challenges that would be brought in the wake of its attempt. But that doesn’t mean it’s not worth doing.
I’m really not sure how that contradicts anything I have said
And the very next paragraph explicitly says that a state appointing electors directly or via districts are not discriminatory under the 14th amendment. If legislative appointment isn’t a 14th violation then how could a NPVC possibly be?
And the very next paragraph explicitly says that a state appointing electors directly or via districts are not discriminatory under the 14th amendment. If legislative appointment isn’t a 14th violation then how could a NPVC possibly be?
November 14, 2026 at 6:58 PM
I’m really not sure how that contradicts anything I have said
And the very next paragraph explicitly says that a state appointing electors directly or via districts are not discriminatory under the 14th amendment. If legislative appointment isn’t a 14th violation then how could a NPVC possibly be?
And the very next paragraph explicitly says that a state appointing electors directly or via districts are not discriminatory under the 14th amendment. If legislative appointment isn’t a 14th violation then how could a NPVC possibly be?
You still haven’t explained how the NPVC would violate any of the few limitations states have in selecting their electors besides vaguely saying it dilutes or abridges votes.
The irony is it would be the first time in American history where every single voter’s vote counted equally for president
The irony is it would be the first time in American history where every single voter’s vote counted equally for president
November 14, 2026 at 8:14 PM
You still haven’t explained how the NPVC would violate any of the few limitations states have in selecting their electors besides vaguely saying it dilutes or abridges votes.
The irony is it would be the first time in American history where every single voter’s vote counted equally for president
The irony is it would be the first time in American history where every single voter’s vote counted equally for president
No wonder the Constitution has only been amended 27 times. And look at the ERA! It STILL hasn't been ratified.
So go ahead, introduce the resolutions!, But if there's a workaround that won't take decades to implement, like the NPVC, by all means, make it so!
So go ahead, introduce the resolutions!, But if there's a workaround that won't take decades to implement, like the NPVC, by all means, make it so!
November 13, 2026 at 6:47 PM
No wonder the Constitution has only been amended 27 times. And look at the ERA! It STILL hasn't been ratified.
So go ahead, introduce the resolutions!, But if there's a workaround that won't take decades to implement, like the NPVC, by all means, make it so!
So go ahead, introduce the resolutions!, But if there's a workaround that won't take decades to implement, like the NPVC, by all means, make it so!
I support the NPVC and have asked my newly-elected Pennsylvania state representive to support it as well.
November 5, 2026 at 10:32 PM
I support the NPVC and have asked my newly-elected Pennsylvania state representive to support it as well.
I agree with Josh here - the NPVC has big problems. (1) There’s no official way to tally the national popular vote. (2) Would states really stick with it? If MA, MI and PA join it, and then swing back to the GOP, and we get another 2000/2016, will they really assign their electors to the Democrat?
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November 14, 2026 at 4:34 PM
I agree with Josh here - the NPVC has big problems. (1) There’s no official way to tally the national popular vote. (2) Would states really stick with it? If MA, MI and PA join it, and then swing back to the GOP, and we get another 2000/2016, will they really assign their electors to the Democrat?
…second, the NPVC puts all of those pockets of non-majority party voters into play since they factor into the total popular vote.
November 6, 2026 at 2:26 PM
…second, the NPVC puts all of those pockets of non-majority party voters into play since they factor into the total popular vote.