Like, New Glenn is basically the main NewSpace competitor: there are OldSpace choices too, but then you get into issues of cost overruns.
June 7, 2025 at 6:03 PM
Like, New Glenn is basically the main NewSpace competitor: there are OldSpace choices too, but then you get into issues of cost overruns.
Un bon "gros" satellite GEO pour Thales Alenia Space, deux satellites radar SAR pour Airbus DS, les constructeurs "OldSpace" européens ont connu pire matinée !
Bien sûr, ça n'enlève rien aux difficultés du secteur.
Bien sûr, ça n'enlève rien aux difficultés du secteur.
February 10, 2025 at 10:11 AM
Un bon "gros" satellite GEO pour Thales Alenia Space, deux satellites radar SAR pour Airbus DS, les constructeurs "OldSpace" européens ont connu pire matinée !
Bien sûr, ça n'enlève rien aux difficultés du secteur.
Bien sûr, ça n'enlève rien aux difficultés du secteur.
I think if you went back to 2019 or 2020 and told people that Starship still wouldn't have flown a single orbital mission in 2026 they would just laugh in your face and maybe call you an OldSpace shill or something.
January 15, 2026 at 9:09 PM
I think if you went back to 2019 or 2020 and told people that Starship still wouldn't have flown a single orbital mission in 2026 they would just laugh in your face and maybe call you an OldSpace shill or something.
lol did you think the starliner letter meant anything but just punishing boeing? you thought it meant genuine change to the commercial spaceflight risk structure and not just punishing "oldspace"?? loooool
March 10, 2026 at 9:25 PM
lol did you think the starliner letter meant anything but just punishing boeing? you thought it meant genuine change to the commercial spaceflight risk structure and not just punishing "oldspace"?? loooool
Interpreting this that someone is getting into 'oldspace' and enjoying their hearing aid time like a little would their paci 🤭
October 1, 2025 at 5:26 PM
Interpreting this that someone is getting into 'oldspace' and enjoying their hearing aid time like a little would their paci 🤭
Le NewSpace mange le OldSpace, épisode 47393. RocketLab devient inéluctablement un nouveau "major" de l’industrie spatiale américaine.
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June 29, 2026 at 11:31 AM
Le NewSpace mange le OldSpace, épisode 47393. RocketLab devient inéluctablement un nouveau "major" de l’industrie spatiale américaine.
Genuinely, how is the oldspace mentality entrenched at NASA anymore? They are basically just stuck with SLS, but every single other contract leans heavily on commercial. They hate oldspace at this point, at least in the past 5 years.
December 4, 2024 at 5:16 PM
Genuinely, how is the oldspace mentality entrenched at NASA anymore? They are basically just stuck with SLS, but every single other contract leans heavily on commercial. They hate oldspace at this point, at least in the past 5 years.
Certes. Je reste convaincu que des acteurs du oldspace aurait pu, avec plus de temps et d'argent toutefois.
July 29, 2026 at 12:47 PM
Certes. Je reste convaincu que des acteurs du oldspace aurait pu, avec plus de temps et d'argent toutefois.
I was delighted to find this video. We all knew it happened but for the first time we could overhear the conversation.
The locals here hated Obama and hated Elon because they were challenging OldSpace. Now they hate Obama, but love Elon for his extreme politics and overlook what he did to OldSpace.
The locals here hated Obama and hated Elon because they were challenging OldSpace. Now they hate Obama, but love Elon for his extreme politics and overlook what he did to OldSpace.
November 18, 2024 at 1:00 AM
I was delighted to find this video. We all knew it happened but for the first time we could overhear the conversation.
The locals here hated Obama and hated Elon because they were challenging OldSpace. Now they hate Obama, but love Elon for his extreme politics and overlook what he did to OldSpace.
The locals here hated Obama and hated Elon because they were challenging OldSpace. Now they hate Obama, but love Elon for his extreme politics and overlook what he did to OldSpace.
For all the people who say that commercial space flight is a failure, that’s still wrong. Falcon and Dragon are *incredibly* reliable, while Boeing’s OldSpace approach with Starliner is an unmitigated failure. SLS is too expensive and flies too infrequently to be practical.
May 29, 2026 at 2:08 AM
For all the people who say that commercial space flight is a failure, that’s still wrong. Falcon and Dragon are *incredibly* reliable, while Boeing’s OldSpace approach with Starliner is an unmitigated failure. SLS is too expensive and flies too infrequently to be practical.
I just can't get inspired by them. They're "New Oldspace". Slow, following-not-leading, economically inefficient... it's just so "meh" to me.
Rocket Lab has the right spirit, IMHO.
Rocket Lab has the right spirit, IMHO.
August 10, 2023 at 4:38 PM
I just can't get inspired by them. They're "New Oldspace". Slow, following-not-leading, economically inefficient... it's just so "meh" to me.
Rocket Lab has the right spirit, IMHO.
Rocket Lab has the right spirit, IMHO.
No it's 'assuming Boeing can do no wrong in the face if all evidence' vs. not doing that.
The down select should have been SpX + SNC, we got Boeing instead because of oldspace bias
The down select should have been SpX + SNC, we got Boeing instead because of oldspace bias
August 24, 2024 at 5:58 PM
No it's 'assuming Boeing can do no wrong in the face if all evidence' vs. not doing that.
The down select should have been SpX + SNC, we got Boeing instead because of oldspace bias
The down select should have been SpX + SNC, we got Boeing instead because of oldspace bias
En soi le projet ne me dérange pas du tout : c'est perdre un observatoire très prisé et encore avec beaucoup de valeur ou mettre quelques dizaines de millions dans un véhicule capable de le sauver tout en soutenant son industrie... Il y a une logique. Aucun acteur oldspace ne pouvait le faire.
July 29, 2026 at 12:41 PM
En soi le projet ne me dérange pas du tout : c'est perdre un observatoire très prisé et encore avec beaucoup de valeur ou mettre quelques dizaines de millions dans un véhicule capable de le sauver tout en soutenant son industrie... Il y a une logique. Aucun acteur oldspace ne pouvait le faire.
Rant post: OldSpace is... old!
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September 9, 2024 at 4:33 PM
Rant post: OldSpace is... old!
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personally I think that you weird perma-teens need to be like "oldspace" and us kiddos will take back middlespace!! 🦨
July 14, 2026 at 12:46 AM
personally I think that you weird perma-teens need to be like "oldspace" and us kiddos will take back middlespace!! 🦨
No contention there! I'm a big fan of Rocket Lab for example (though I worry about their choice of carbon fibre for Neutron... otherwise, excited for the design). And Peter Beck is a real class act compared to Elon.
(Note that I'd classify Blue Origin as "New Oldspace" ;) )
(Note that I'd classify Blue Origin as "New Oldspace" ;) )
December 9, 2023 at 7:37 PM
No contention there! I'm a big fan of Rocket Lab for example (though I worry about their choice of carbon fibre for Neutron... otherwise, excited for the design). And Peter Beck is a real class act compared to Elon.
(Note that I'd classify Blue Origin as "New Oldspace" ;) )
(Note that I'd classify Blue Origin as "New Oldspace" ;) )
It's not relevant to the quality of SpaceX's engineers.The current effort of cost cuts has gotten flak from CSS as "bad design", but it's a deliberate program to find the lowest price for performance, unlike oldspace designs that aim for performance over all. Once they find it, they'll stay there.
August 13, 2024 at 12:08 PM
It's not relevant to the quality of SpaceX's engineers.The current effort of cost cuts has gotten flak from CSS as "bad design", but it's a deliberate program to find the lowest price for performance, unlike oldspace designs that aim for performance over all. Once they find it, they'll stay there.
Given the materials Starship is made out of, the simplicity of construction techniques compared to industry standard, and the "bulk discount" of their engine design and clustering techniques, an individual starship costs significantly less than an oldspace design. Plenty of time to learn.
August 12, 2024 at 11:42 PM
Given the materials Starship is made out of, the simplicity of construction techniques compared to industry standard, and the "bulk discount" of their engine design and clustering techniques, an individual starship costs significantly less than an oldspace design. Plenty of time to learn.
Point of order- SpaceX is an order of magnetude better than the "oldspace" companies that predate it, but the new companies coming up are just as good... But they couldnt get startup funds (too risky, no room for disruption) until SpaceX was already successful, putting them a decade or more behind.
December 9, 2023 at 7:34 PM
Point of order- SpaceX is an order of magnetude better than the "oldspace" companies that predate it, but the new companies coming up are just as good... But they couldnt get startup funds (too risky, no room for disruption) until SpaceX was already successful, putting them a decade or more behind.
5/5 Few weeks ago I felt a lack in this little family.
Big Brother: Polyus!
After a battle to get 2 satisfying cones, Polyus is available since today.
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Enjoy building.
But I feel like something is still missing...
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #Energia #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
Big Brother: Polyus!
After a battle to get 2 satisfying cones, Polyus is available since today.
reb.li/m/213345
Enjoy building.
But I feel like something is still missing...
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #Energia #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
Polyus (1:70 scale)
Hello.The purpose of Energia was to put payloads into orbit.Everyone knows the Buran shuttle.But before Buran there was Polyus.Polyus was the Soviet answer to the U.S. «Star...
reb.li
March 4, 2025 at 8:53 PM
5/5 Few weeks ago I felt a lack in this little family.
Big Brother: Polyus!
After a battle to get 2 satisfying cones, Polyus is available since today.
reb.li/m/213345
Enjoy building.
But I feel like something is still missing...
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #Energia #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
Big Brother: Polyus!
After a battle to get 2 satisfying cones, Polyus is available since today.
reb.li/m/213345
Enjoy building.
But I feel like something is still missing...
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #Energia #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
4/5 Just before the publication of Energia, I thought that a Launch Table would be a plus.
This Launch Table set became available at the same time as Energia.
reb.li/m/207727
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #shuttle #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
This Launch Table set became available at the same time as Energia.
reb.li/m/207727
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #shuttle #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
Launch Table (for Energia) (1:70 scale)
Hello.You have assembled the Energia rocket with its Buran payload ?Congratulations.What better way to present it at its...
reb.li
March 4, 2025 at 8:51 PM
4/5 Just before the publication of Energia, I thought that a Launch Table would be a plus.
This Launch Table set became available at the same time as Energia.
reb.li/m/207727
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #shuttle #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
This Launch Table set became available at the same time as Energia.
reb.li/m/207727
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #shuttle #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
3/5 October 21, 2023, Energia appears during the presentation of the Energia program by @buranarchive.space at Space Creator Day (Speyer Technick Museum (Ger)).
Instructions are available since January 2025
reb.li/m/207736
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #shuttle #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
Instructions are available since January 2025
reb.li/m/207736
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #shuttle #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
Energia Buran (1:70 scale)
Hello.Welcome to Roscosmos Energia/Buran construction at the Discovery scale.After building Buran I said to myself «Why not also do Energia ?»The central parts of the Saturn...
reb.li
March 4, 2025 at 8:50 PM
3/5 October 21, 2023, Energia appears during the presentation of the Energia program by @buranarchive.space at Space Creator Day (Speyer Technick Museum (Ger)).
Instructions are available since January 2025
reb.li/m/207736
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #shuttle #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
Instructions are available since January 2025
reb.li/m/207736
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #shuttle #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
2/5 In the fall of 2021, I said to myself "Why not also make the Energia rocket?"
I started with 2 Saturn V (set 92176). Indeed, the central part of the Saturn V corresponds to the diameter of the Energia boosters.
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #shuttle #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
I started with 2 Saturn V (set 92176). Indeed, the central part of the Saturn V corresponds to the diameter of the Energia boosters.
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #shuttle #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
March 4, 2025 at 8:46 PM
2/5 In the fall of 2021, I said to myself "Why not also make the Energia rocket?"
I started with 2 Saturn V (set 92176). Indeed, the central part of the Saturn V corresponds to the diameter of the Energia boosters.
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #shuttle #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
I started with 2 Saturn V (set 92176). Indeed, the central part of the Saturn V corresponds to the diameter of the Energia boosters.
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #shuttle #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
1/4 In April 2021, Lego launched the Discovery set (set 10283).
My first thought was to transform it into Buran (the Soviet shuttle)
Which was done in June 2021
reb.li/m/168304
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #shuttle #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
My first thought was to transform it into Buran (the Soviet shuttle)
Which was done in June 2021
reb.li/m/168304
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #shuttle #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
Buran OK-1.01 (1:70 scale)
HiAs soon as I got LEGO's NASA Discovery shuttle I imagined how to turn her into Roscosmos Buran.Here is my way to achieve that.The main goal was to buy the minimum of...
reb.li
March 4, 2025 at 8:44 PM
1/4 In April 2021, Lego launched the Discovery set (set 10283).
My first thought was to transform it into Buran (the Soviet shuttle)
Which was done in June 2021
reb.li/m/168304
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #shuttle #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic
My first thought was to transform it into Buran (the Soviet shuttle)
Which was done in June 2021
reb.li/m/168304
#Lego #Buran #Roscosmos #shuttle #space #Polyus #oldspace #Spaceclassic