#zizians
No, I’m not talking about the Zizians. The Zizians are just one small extra insane offshoot of these people, most of whom hold extremely lucrative and respectable-seeming tech jobs.
September 15, 2026 at 8:36 PM
My overall sentiment on the Zizians and their fellow travelers is:

It's deeply bad for you to think your own beliefs matter that much.
April 23, 2026 at 2:56 AM
Zizians, man.
May 15, 2025 at 9:42 PM
this is literally just about the zizians.

ken’s fearmongering over the zizians.

fuck this.
Intelligence report leaked to me warns of "trans militant cult," a framing echoed by Vice President JD Vance. The new "terror" obsession is here:
www.kenklippenstein.com/p/white-hous...
White House Eyes Transgender “Terrorism”
Leaked intelligence doc warns of “trans militant cult”
www.kenklippenstein.com
September 20, 2025 at 8:50 PM
The other one is the Zizians, for those curious. Behind The Bastards did an informative series about them a while back. It's honestly kind of sad.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zizians
Zizians - Wikipedia
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October 3, 2026 at 5:56 PM
thirty two pages into writing about the Zizians and we haven't even hit any of the murders why did i decide to do this oh no
March 5, 2025 at 7:34 AM
after listening to @iwriteok.bsky.social on the Zizians I do not feel good about this
putting your govt in the hands of a millenarian cult usually turns out great, right?
You should read this, by Henry Farrell.

"I put it to this ['DOGE-adjacent] individual that tearing out the decision making capacities of government would not be good for America’s ability to do things in the world. Their response (paraphrased slightly) was: so what? We’ll have AGI by late 2026." 😮
March 18, 2025 at 10:02 PM
this is the guy who wrote Harry Potter fan fiction about rationalism and influenced the Zizians
These guys are so normal.
February 10, 2026 at 8:27 PM
People who only just learned about lesswrong from a podcast or blog post about the zizians: getting a real zizians vibe from this lesswrong link
October 5, 2025 at 11:21 PM
My theory is Tom Kean joined the Zizians
June 25, 2026 at 6:19 PM
Oh god we’re gonna get more Zizians
April 10, 2025 at 12:28 AM
i feel like it is easier to explain tibetan buddhism to someone than to begin explaining what zizians' deal even was
Rationalist Standard English is sufficiently split from American English that it is effectively a dialect that is often not mutually comprehensible
April 13, 2026 at 6:06 AM
Zizians vindicated?
January 31, 2026 at 8:06 PM
The Zizians were batshit crazy? And probably needed institutionalization before they killed....what, 6 people?

Rationalism is a cult. Cults breed insanity.

And it’s REALLY INTERESTING that Thiel happened to bankroll this particular one www.sfchronicle.com/crime/articl...
Before killings linked to cultlike ‘Zizians,’ a string of psychiatric crises befell AI doomsdayers
Before killings linked to cultlike ‘Zizians,’ a string of suicides and psychiatric crises befell AI doomsdayers
www.sfchronicle.com
May 16, 2025 at 2:33 PM
Man, I regularly go months without thinking of the Zizians.
June 25, 2026 at 2:49 AM
I reported on QAnon and man it was pretty clear where it was going and the Zizians have made it clear where this will go, too. Listen to the Behind the Bastards series on the Zizians if you haven’t yet.
The same way a lot of people didn't realize how big the QAnon problem was until those fuckers literally stormed the capital, I fear we're a year or two away from a shocking discovery of just how many "seemingly normal" people have lost their minds "talking" with ChatGPT.
"The moderators of a pro-artificial intelligence Reddit community announced that they have been quietly banning 'a bunch of schizoposters' who believe 'they've made some sort of incredible discovery or created a god or become a god.'"
June 6, 2025 at 7:42 PM
i guess i *sort of* mentioned peter thiel and the zizians
September 17, 2026 at 3:47 AM
oh, right: Brent Dill is the event that drives Ziz Lasota of the Zizians all the way off the deep end
September 18, 2026 at 2:50 AM
Literally the only case of a trans person doing domestic terrorism I can think of was Ziz / the Zizians, and the violence was not motivated by her transness, it was motivated by a conspiritorial AI death cult ideology and a shitty Harry potter fanfic.

Shout out to @iwriteok.bsky.social ❤️🔥❤️
Part One: The Zizians: How Harry Potter Fanfic Inspired a Death Cult | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
YouTube video by Behind the Bastards
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June 30, 2025 at 8:31 PM
since this has come up a few times i want to just say:

he's completely lying about how responsible he is for how the zizians turned out. they took classes at CFAR, his recruiting front, and their core schism-disputes were with Michael Vassar, one of Yudkowsky's periodic lieutenants
October 3, 2026 at 1:04 AM
There’s a great book to be written about the Zizians, but this hack certainly isn’t the one to do it.
July 14, 2026 at 4:04 AM
Three members of the Zizians, a cultlike group linked to six deaths across the U.S., appeared in a Maryland court for a hearing ahead of their upcoming trial.
Members of Zizians group attend hearing ahead of Maryland trespassing trial
Three members of the Zizians, a cultlike group linked to six deaths across the U.S., appeared in a Maryland court for a hearing ahead of their upcoming trial.
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January 16, 2026 at 8:00 PM
On the cultish stuff, I recommend @iwriteok.bsky.social's series on the Zizians... there's lots of background on the whole rationalist/effective altruism stuff. I wince every time I see "AI" stuff marketed as "agentic" after hearing how else that term gets tossed around.

omny.fm/shows/behind...
Part One: The Zizians: How Harry Potter Fanfic Inspired a Death Cult - Behind the Bastards
Earlier this year a Border Patrol officer was killed in a shoot-out with people who have been described as members of a trans vegan AI death cult. But who are the Zizians, really? Robert sits down wit...
omny.fm
May 16, 2025 at 12:25 AM
Let me tell you about a group called the Zizians...
April 13, 2025 at 9:01 AM