#DistributedTracing is awesome. But storing and analyzing each trace is expensive at scale. Sampling is the process of keeping only some of your traces, which I covered in the first thread of this series.
November 5, 2026 at 9:20 AM
#DistributedTracing is awesome. But storing and analyzing each trace is expensive at scale. Sampling is the process of keeping only some of your traces, which I covered in the first thread of this series.
The latest update for #Motadata includes "What is #DistributedTracing? How a Request Becomes a Trace" and "What is Jaeger Tracing and How does It Locate Slowdowns Across #Microservices".
#monitoring #cybersecurity #ITSM https://opsmtrs.com/2WjUM6c
#monitoring #cybersecurity #ITSM https://opsmtrs.com/2WjUM6c
Motadata
Motadata is an IT monitoring and management software that derives business insights by real-time processing, correlation and intelligent visualization of IT network and security information data.
opsmtrs.com
October 22, 2026 at 3:06 AM
The latest update for #Motadata includes "What is #DistributedTracing? How a Request Becomes a Trace" and "What is Jaeger Tracing and How does It Locate Slowdowns Across #Microservices".
#monitoring #cybersecurity #ITSM https://opsmtrs.com/2WjUM6c
#monitoring #cybersecurity #ITSM https://opsmtrs.com/2WjUM6c
OpenTelemetry erklärt: Traces, Metriken, Logs und der Collector
Was OpenTelemetry ist und was nicht, wie Traces, Metriken und Logs zusammenhängen, wie API, SDK, OTLP und Collector Daten bewegen, Agent oder Gateway, Zero-Code-Instrumentierung…
#opentelemetry #observability #distributedtracing
Was OpenTelemetry ist und was nicht, wie Traces, Metriken und Logs zusammenhängen, wie API, SDK, OTLP und Collector Daten bewegen, Agent oder Gateway, Zero-Code-Instrumentierung…
#opentelemetry #observability #distributedtracing
OpenTelemetry erklärt: Traces, Metriken, Logs und der Collector
Was OpenTelemetry ist und was nicht, wie Traces, Metriken und Logs zusammenhängen, wie API, SDK, OTLP und Collector Daten bewegen, Agent oder Gateway, Zero-Code-Instrumentierung auf Kubernetes, Sampling und die Fehler, die Observability in der Produktion teuer machen.
www.alekseialeinikov.com
October 14, 2026 at 6:44 AM
OpenTelemetry erklärt: Traces, Metriken, Logs und der Collector
Was OpenTelemetry ist und was nicht, wie Traces, Metriken und Logs zusammenhängen, wie API, SDK, OTLP und Collector Daten bewegen, Agent oder Gateway, Zero-Code-Instrumentierung…
#opentelemetry #observability #distributedtracing
Was OpenTelemetry ist und was nicht, wie Traces, Metriken und Logs zusammenhängen, wie API, SDK, OTLP und Collector Daten bewegen, Agent oder Gateway, Zero-Code-Instrumentierung…
#opentelemetry #observability #distributedtracing
OpenTelemetry Explained: Traces, Metrics, Logs and the Collector
What OpenTelemetry is and is not, how traces, metrics and logs fit together, how the API, SDK, OTLP and the Collector move data, agent vs gateway deployments, zero-code instru…
#opentelemetry #observability #distributedtracing
What OpenTelemetry is and is not, how traces, metrics and logs fit together, how the API, SDK, OTLP and the Collector move data, agent vs gateway deployments, zero-code instru…
#opentelemetry #observability #distributedtracing
OpenTelemetry Explained: Traces, Metrics, Logs and the Collector
What OpenTelemetry is and is not, how traces, metrics and logs fit together, how the API, SDK, OTLP and the Collector move data, agent vs gateway deployments, zero-code instrumentation on Kubernetes, sampling, and the production mistakes that make observability expensive.
www.alekseialeinikov.com
October 14, 2026 at 6:44 AM
OpenTelemetry Explained: Traces, Metrics, Logs and the Collector
What OpenTelemetry is and is not, how traces, metrics and logs fit together, how the API, SDK, OTLP and the Collector move data, agent vs gateway deployments, zero-code instru…
#opentelemetry #observability #distributedtracing
What OpenTelemetry is and is not, how traces, metrics and logs fit together, how the API, SDK, OTLP and the Collector move data, agent vs gateway deployments, zero-code instru…
#opentelemetry #observability #distributedtracing
Jaeger란? 대안 트레이싱 도구 5가지 비교
https://bit.ly/4jRK2aE
#Jaeger #분산트레이싱 #DistributedTracing #마이크로서비스 #Microservices #오픈소스 #Observability
https://bit.ly/4jRK2aE
#Jaeger #분산트레이싱 #DistributedTracing #마이크로서비스 #Microservices #오픈소스 #Observability
Jaeger란? 대안 트레이싱 도구 5가지 비교 - IT Mania 도전인생
마이크로서비스 환경에서 요청이 어디서 지연되는지 추적하려면 분산 트레이싱 도구가 필요합니다. Jaeger는 CNCF 졸업 프로젝트로 널리 쓰이는 오픈소스 분산 트레이싱 시스템입니다. 이 글에서는 Jaeger의 개념과 특징을 정리하고, 상황에 따라 검토할 만한 대안 5가지의 특징과
bit.ly
October 12, 2026 at 3:20 AM
Jaeger란? 대안 트레이싱 도구 5가지 비교
https://bit.ly/4jRK2aE
#Jaeger #분산트레이싱 #DistributedTracing #마이크로서비스 #Microservices #오픈소스 #Observability
https://bit.ly/4jRK2aE
#Jaeger #분산트레이싱 #DistributedTracing #마이크로서비스 #Microservices #오픈소스 #Observability
Global Sampling Strategy for Distributed Tracing
https://beefed.ai/en/adaptive-sampling-distributed-tracing
#AdaptiveSampling #TraceSampling #DistributedTracing #OpentelemetrySampling #TailbasedSampling
https://beefed.ai/en/adaptive-sampling-distributed-tracing
#AdaptiveSampling #TraceSampling #DistributedTracing #OpentelemetrySampling #TailbasedSampling
Global Sampling Strategy for Distributed Tracing
beefed.ai
October 7, 2026 at 3:55 PM
Global Sampling Strategy for Distributed Tracing
https://beefed.ai/en/adaptive-sampling-distributed-tracing
#AdaptiveSampling #TraceSampling #DistributedTracing #OpentelemetrySampling #TailbasedSampling
https://beefed.ai/en/adaptive-sampling-distributed-tracing
#AdaptiveSampling #TraceSampling #DistributedTracing #OpentelemetrySampling #TailbasedSampling
The latest update for #AppSignal includes "#DistributedTracing Is Now in Beta for #Ruby, #PHP, and #Python" and "AppSignal Intelligence Just Got More #Rails Context".
#monitoring https://opsmtrs.com/2WLsKkl
#monitoring https://opsmtrs.com/2WLsKkl
AppSignal
Made for teams that want to build high quality Ruby and Elixir applications, AppSignal offers amazing insights into errors and performance issues, plus host monitoring and an easy to use custom metrics platform.
opsmtrs.com
September 24, 2026 at 12:16 AM
The latest update for #AppSignal includes "#DistributedTracing Is Now in Beta for #Ruby, #PHP, and #Python" and "AppSignal Intelligence Just Got More #Rails Context".
#monitoring https://opsmtrs.com/2WLsKkl
#monitoring https://opsmtrs.com/2WLsKkl
Observability Best Practices for Chaos Experiments
https://beefed.ai/en/observability-best-practices-chaos-experiments
#Observability #ChaosExperiments #MetricsTracingLogs #SlosAndErrorBudgets #DistributedTracing
https://beefed.ai/en/observability-best-practices-chaos-experiments
#Observability #ChaosExperiments #MetricsTracingLogs #SlosAndErrorBudgets #DistributedTracing
Observability Best Practices for Chaos Experiments
beefed.ai
September 22, 2026 at 3:50 AM
Observability Best Practices for Chaos Experiments
https://beefed.ai/en/observability-best-practices-chaos-experiments
#Observability #ChaosExperiments #MetricsTracingLogs #SlosAndErrorBudgets #DistributedTracing
https://beefed.ai/en/observability-best-practices-chaos-experiments
#Observability #ChaosExperiments #MetricsTracingLogs #SlosAndErrorBudgets #DistributedTracing
Observability and Tracing for Edge Platforms
https://beefed.ai/en/edge-observability-tracing-rum-dashboard
#EdgeObservability #DistributedTracing #RealUserMonitoring #P95Latency #CacheHitRatio
https://beefed.ai/en/edge-observability-tracing-rum-dashboard
#EdgeObservability #DistributedTracing #RealUserMonitoring #P95Latency #CacheHitRatio
Observability and Tracing for Edge Platforms
beefed.ai
September 7, 2026 at 9:44 PM
Observability and Tracing for Edge Platforms
https://beefed.ai/en/edge-observability-tracing-rum-dashboard
#EdgeObservability #DistributedTracing #RealUserMonitoring #P95Latency #CacheHitRatio
https://beefed.ai/en/edge-observability-tracing-rum-dashboard
#EdgeObservability #DistributedTracing #RealUserMonitoring #P95Latency #CacheHitRatio
OpenTelemetry became the default telemetry layer across new projects with tracing metrics and logs unified under one SDK. The three-signal correlation story finally works at production scale
#OpenTelemetry #Observability #DistributedTracing
#OpenTelemetry #Observability #DistributedTracing
August 20, 2026 at 4:24 AM
OpenTelemetry became the default telemetry layer across new projects with tracing metrics and logs unified under one SDK. The three-signal correlation story finally works at production scale
#OpenTelemetry #Observability #DistributedTracing
#OpenTelemetry #Observability #DistributedTracing
Distributed tracing costs forced a rethink this year. Smarter head sampling, tail based policies, and compact exporters cut ingest volumes by half in many orgs. Full fidelity tracing everywhere stays a luxury, but targeted observability became affordable. #DistributedTracing #Observability #Backend
August 20, 2026 at 4:26 AM
Distributed tracing costs forced a rethink this year. Smarter head sampling, tail based policies, and compact exporters cut ingest volumes by half in many orgs. Full fidelity tracing everywhere stays a luxury, but targeted observability became affordable. #DistributedTracing #Observability #Backend
5 Secrets If Software Engineering Isn't Like You Think
https://techcraft.live/5-secrets-if-software-engineering-isnt-like-you-th/?utm_source=bluesky&utm_medium=social
#distributedtracing #samplingrate #cloudnativeperformance
https://techcraft.live/5-secrets-if-software-engineering-isnt-like-you-th/?utm_source=bluesky&utm_medium=social
#distributedtracing #samplingrate #cloudnativeperformance
August 18, 2026 at 4:04 AM
5 Secrets If Software Engineering Isn't Like You Think
https://techcraft.live/5-secrets-if-software-engineering-isnt-like-you-th/?utm_source=bluesky&utm_medium=social
#distributedtracing #samplingrate #cloudnativeperformance
https://techcraft.live/5-secrets-if-software-engineering-isnt-like-you-th/?utm_source=bluesky&utm_medium=social
#distributedtracing #samplingrate #cloudnativeperformance
AWS X-Ray is transitioning to OpenTelemetry as its primary instrumentation standard for application tracing, with the AWS X-Ray SDKs and Daemon now moving into maintenance mode.
Learn more: bit.ly/4pK7Dd4
#InfoQ #DevOps #OpenTelemetry #Observability #DistributedTracing #Logging
Learn more: bit.ly/4pK7Dd4
#InfoQ #DevOps #OpenTelemetry #Observability #DistributedTracing #Logging
December 3, 2025 at 11:26 AM
AWS X-Ray is transitioning to OpenTelemetry as its primary instrumentation standard for application tracing, with the AWS X-Ray SDKs and Daemon now moving into maintenance mode.
Learn more: bit.ly/4pK7Dd4
#InfoQ #DevOps #OpenTelemetry #Observability #DistributedTracing #Logging
Learn more: bit.ly/4pK7Dd4
#InfoQ #DevOps #OpenTelemetry #Observability #DistributedTracing #Logging
#Grafana Labs has published major updates across two key observability products - Grafana 12.3 & Grafana Tempo 2.9.
The two releases have distinct improvements in monitoring, logs, and tracing for Grafana users.
Read more on #InfoQ ⇨ bit.ly/4odeZEM
#Observability #DistributedTracing #Logging
The two releases have distinct improvements in monitoring, logs, and tracing for Grafana users.
Read more on #InfoQ ⇨ bit.ly/4odeZEM
#Observability #DistributedTracing #Logging
November 24, 2025 at 12:03 PM
#Grafana Labs has published major updates across two key observability products - Grafana 12.3 & Grafana Tempo 2.9.
The two releases have distinct improvements in monitoring, logs, and tracing for Grafana users.
Read more on #InfoQ ⇨ bit.ly/4odeZEM
#Observability #DistributedTracing #Logging
The two releases have distinct improvements in monitoring, logs, and tracing for Grafana users.
Read more on #InfoQ ⇨ bit.ly/4odeZEM
#Observability #DistributedTracing #Logging
#Grafana 12 is here with major upgrades!
Now GA: Git Sync, dynamic dashboards, improvements to Drilldown which gives code-free point-and-click insights into data, and a Cloud Migration assistant.
Explore what's new: bit.ly/45oR7bw
#InfoQ #DevOps #Monitoring #DistributedTracing #OpenTelemetry
Now GA: Git Sync, dynamic dashboards, improvements to Drilldown which gives code-free point-and-click insights into data, and a Cloud Migration assistant.
Explore what's new: bit.ly/45oR7bw
#InfoQ #DevOps #Monitoring #DistributedTracing #OpenTelemetry
May 26, 2025 at 6:19 AM
#Grafana 12 is here with major upgrades!
Now GA: Git Sync, dynamic dashboards, improvements to Drilldown which gives code-free point-and-click insights into data, and a Cloud Migration assistant.
Explore what's new: bit.ly/45oR7bw
#InfoQ #DevOps #Monitoring #DistributedTracing #OpenTelemetry
Now GA: Git Sync, dynamic dashboards, improvements to Drilldown which gives code-free point-and-click insights into data, and a Cloud Migration assistant.
Explore what's new: bit.ly/45oR7bw
#InfoQ #DevOps #Monitoring #DistributedTracing #OpenTelemetry
📰 [News] Distributed Tracing Tool Jaeger Releases Version 2 with OpenTelemetry at the Core
🔗 bit.ly/3ZAAyGh
#Jaeger v2 is out and contains a significant architectural transformation, bringing Jaeger and its components into the OpenTelemetry framework.
#Monitoring #DistributedTracing #InfoQ
🔗 bit.ly/3ZAAyGh
#Jaeger v2 is out and contains a significant architectural transformation, bringing Jaeger and its components into the OpenTelemetry framework.
#Monitoring #DistributedTracing #InfoQ
December 4, 2024 at 8:54 AM
📰 [News] Distributed Tracing Tool Jaeger Releases Version 2 with OpenTelemetry at the Core
🔗 bit.ly/3ZAAyGh
#Jaeger v2 is out and contains a significant architectural transformation, bringing Jaeger and its components into the OpenTelemetry framework.
#Monitoring #DistributedTracing #InfoQ
🔗 bit.ly/3ZAAyGh
#Jaeger v2 is out and contains a significant architectural transformation, bringing Jaeger and its components into the OpenTelemetry framework.
#Monitoring #DistributedTracing #InfoQ
Zipkin 활용법과 분산 추적을 위한 대안 서비스 5가지
https://bit.ly/4t6EgTw
#Zipkin #분산추적 #DistributedTracing #마이크로서비스 #Microservices #MSA #Observability
https://bit.ly/4t6EgTw
#Zipkin #분산추적 #DistributedTracing #마이크로서비스 #Microservices #MSA #Observability
Zipkin 활용법과 분산 추적을 위한 대안 서비스 5가지 - IT Mania 도전인생
마이크로서비스 아키텍처 환경에서 서비스 간의 호출 흐름이 복잡해지면 장애 지점을 찾는 일이 숙제가 됩니다. Zipkin은 분산 시스템에서 발생하는 지연 시간과 트레이스 데이터를 수집해 흐름을 시각화해 주는 오픈소스 도구로, 시스템 운영의 효율을 높이는 데 큰 역할을 합니다.
itmania.hangadac.com
May 1, 2026 at 3:20 AM
Zipkin 활용법과 분산 추적을 위한 대안 서비스 5가지
https://bit.ly/4t6EgTw
#Zipkin #분산추적 #DistributedTracing #마이크로서비스 #Microservices #MSA #Observability
https://bit.ly/4t6EgTw
#Zipkin #분산추적 #DistributedTracing #마이크로서비스 #Microservices #MSA #Observability
Unified Observability: Correlating Database Metrics with Application Traces
https://beefed.ai/en/correlate-db-metrics-application-traces
#DatabaseTracing #OpenTelemetry #TraceMetricCorrelation #PrometheusGrafana #DistributedTracing
https://beefed.ai/en/correlate-db-metrics-application-traces
#DatabaseTracing #OpenTelemetry #TraceMetricCorrelation #PrometheusGrafana #DistributedTracing
Unified Observability: Correlating Database Metrics with Application Traces
beefed.ai
August 9, 2026 at 3:35 PM
Unified Observability: Correlating Database Metrics with Application Traces
https://beefed.ai/en/correlate-db-metrics-application-traces
#DatabaseTracing #OpenTelemetry #TraceMetricCorrelation #PrometheusGrafana #DistributedTracing
https://beefed.ai/en/correlate-db-metrics-application-traces
#DatabaseTracing #OpenTelemetry #TraceMetricCorrelation #PrometheusGrafana #DistributedTracing
Observability and SLOs for Real-Time Event Streaming
https://beefed.ai/en/observability-slos-event-streaming
#StreamingObservability #SlosForStreaming #KafkaMetrics #FlinkMetrics #DistributedTracing
https://beefed.ai/en/observability-slos-event-streaming
#StreamingObservability #SlosForStreaming #KafkaMetrics #FlinkMetrics #DistributedTracing
Observability and SLOs for Real-Time Event Streaming
beefed.ai
May 20, 2026 at 9:12 PM
Observability and SLOs for Real-Time Event Streaming
https://beefed.ai/en/observability-slos-event-streaming
#StreamingObservability #SlosForStreaming #KafkaMetrics #FlinkMetrics #DistributedTracing
https://beefed.ai/en/observability-slos-event-streaming
#StreamingObservability #SlosForStreaming #KafkaMetrics #FlinkMetrics #DistributedTracing
Service Mesh Observability with OpenTelemetry, Prometheus and Tracing
https://beefed.ai/en/service-mesh-observability-opentelemetry-tracing
#ServiceMeshObservability #OpentelemetryServiceMesh #PrometheusMetrics #DistributedTracing #Jaeger
https://beefed.ai/en/service-mesh-observability-opentelemetry-tracing
#ServiceMeshObservability #OpentelemetryServiceMesh #PrometheusMetrics #DistributedTracing #Jaeger
Service Mesh Observability with OpenTelemetry, Prometheus and Tracing
beefed.ai
May 17, 2026 at 3:12 PM
Service Mesh Observability with OpenTelemetry, Prometheus and Tracing
https://beefed.ai/en/service-mesh-observability-opentelemetry-tracing
#ServiceMeshObservability #OpentelemetryServiceMesh #PrometheusMetrics #DistributedTracing #Jaeger
https://beefed.ai/en/service-mesh-observability-opentelemetry-tracing
#ServiceMeshObservability #OpentelemetryServiceMesh #PrometheusMetrics #DistributedTracing #Jaeger
Still looking for highly technical PMs for this awesome shop called @instanahq. Referral/hints appreciated. #AIOps #CICD #Enterprise #K8s #DistributedTracing
November 18, 2024 at 5:40 PM
Still looking for highly technical PMs for this awesome shop called @instanahq. Referral/hints appreciated. #AIOps #CICD #Enterprise #K8s #DistributedTracing
📊 Hoja de ruta de OpenTelemetry: Mejoras en tasas de muestreo y el Collector
El estándar de observabilidad evoluciona con mejoras clave en e
https://thenewstack.io/opentelemetry-roadmap-sampling-rates-and-collector-improvements-ahead/
#OpenTelemetry #Observability #DistributedTracing #RoxsRoss
El estándar de observabilidad evoluciona con mejoras clave en e
https://thenewstack.io/opentelemetry-roadmap-sampling-rates-and-collector-improvements-ahead/
#OpenTelemetry #Observability #DistributedTracing #RoxsRoss
February 24, 2026 at 9:58 PM
📊 Hoja de ruta de OpenTelemetry: Mejoras en tasas de muestreo y el Collector
El estándar de observabilidad evoluciona con mejoras clave en e
https://thenewstack.io/opentelemetry-roadmap-sampling-rates-and-collector-improvements-ahead/
#OpenTelemetry #Observability #DistributedTracing #RoxsRoss
El estándar de observabilidad evoluciona con mejoras clave en e
https://thenewstack.io/opentelemetry-roadmap-sampling-rates-and-collector-improvements-ahead/
#OpenTelemetry #Observability #DistributedTracing #RoxsRoss
The #Dapr project gives instant #DistributedTracing and #observability to your application.
Hear from @daprdev.bsky.social co-creator Yaron Schneider in his fireside chat with @horovits.bsky.social about the project and how to build #microservices the easy way:
medium.com/p/eb2f4013d9a1
@cncf.io
Hear from @daprdev.bsky.social co-creator Yaron Schneider in his fireside chat with @horovits.bsky.social about the project and how to build #microservices the easy way:
medium.com/p/eb2f4013d9a1
@cncf.io
February 9, 2026 at 6:42 PM
The #Dapr project gives instant #DistributedTracing and #observability to your application.
Hear from @daprdev.bsky.social co-creator Yaron Schneider in his fireside chat with @horovits.bsky.social about the project and how to build #microservices the easy way:
medium.com/p/eb2f4013d9a1
@cncf.io
Hear from @daprdev.bsky.social co-creator Yaron Schneider in his fireside chat with @horovits.bsky.social about the project and how to build #microservices the easy way:
medium.com/p/eb2f4013d9a1
@cncf.io
#KubeCon news rail: #Jaeger V2 is heading to GA at #KubeConNA 🎉
Hear all about the long-awaited major release of the #DistributedTracing tool, powered by #OpenTelemetry, on our recent episode with #JaegerTracing creator @yurishkuro.bsky.social and @horovits.bsky.social
medium.com/p/be612dbee7...
Hear all about the long-awaited major release of the #DistributedTracing tool, powered by #OpenTelemetry, on our recent episode with #JaegerTracing creator @yurishkuro.bsky.social and @horovits.bsky.social
medium.com/p/be612dbee7...
Jaeger V2 Unveiled: Distributed Tracing Powered by OpenTelemetry
The Distributed Tracing open source tool under the CNCF is approaching its second major release, with re-architecture and new capabilities.
medium.com
November 10, 2024 at 1:52 PM
#KubeCon news rail: #Jaeger V2 is heading to GA at #KubeConNA 🎉
Hear all about the long-awaited major release of the #DistributedTracing tool, powered by #OpenTelemetry, on our recent episode with #JaegerTracing creator @yurishkuro.bsky.social and @horovits.bsky.social
medium.com/p/be612dbee7...
Hear all about the long-awaited major release of the #DistributedTracing tool, powered by #OpenTelemetry, on our recent episode with #JaegerTracing creator @yurishkuro.bsky.social and @horovits.bsky.social
medium.com/p/be612dbee7...
📢 October episode is out! 📢
#Jaeger V2 Unveiled: #DistributedTracing Powered by #OpenTelemetry
With Jaeger creator @yurishkuro.bsky.social and host
@horovits.bsky.social
🎧 podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/ope...
📺 youtube.com/watch?v=lICi...
Or read the recap post: medium.com/p/be612dbee7...
#Jaeger V2 Unveiled: #DistributedTracing Powered by #OpenTelemetry
With Jaeger creator @yurishkuro.bsky.social and host
@horovits.bsky.social
🎧 podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/ope...
📺 youtube.com/watch?v=lICi...
Or read the recap post: medium.com/p/be612dbee7...
November 5, 2024 at 11:13 AM
📢 October episode is out! 📢
#Jaeger V2 Unveiled: #DistributedTracing Powered by #OpenTelemetry
With Jaeger creator @yurishkuro.bsky.social and host
@horovits.bsky.social
🎧 podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/ope...
📺 youtube.com/watch?v=lICi...
Or read the recap post: medium.com/p/be612dbee7...
#Jaeger V2 Unveiled: #DistributedTracing Powered by #OpenTelemetry
With Jaeger creator @yurishkuro.bsky.social and host
@horovits.bsky.social
🎧 podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/ope...
📺 youtube.com/watch?v=lICi...
Or read the recap post: medium.com/p/be612dbee7...